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"See all that stuff inside, Homer? That's why your robot never worked!"

A quiet Sunday reading the paper, and books, and other nonelectronic things, and copying Season 2 of MI-5 from TiVo to VHS for [livejournal.com profile] jeregenest, who was in a scary and freakish and random accident. It sounds like he's going to be OK, mercifully, but he will, I assume, be convalescing for a while. (On reflection, odds are good that Jere's already seen the MI-5s, but it's nice to have a project.)

I was amused by this quote in the Sunday Book Review:

Here's the problem with 'Write what you know': What too many aspiring writers know, it turns out, is that a suburban American adolescence causes vague feelings of sadness—especially when one's formative years include a dying grandparent or housepet.

Yes, indeed. Substitute "Canadian" for "American" in that sentence and I know that problem all too well. (See, Homer? That's why my novel never worked...) The review in question goes on to say "It's the lucky writer whose story is familiar to himself and exotic to his readers," which then made me think of The Russian Debutante's Handbook, a bit of a trendy must-read novel a few years ago that I had somehow missed. L gave it to me over the holidays, and it was great. Highly recommended. One of the funniest books I've read in a long time. The feckless Gen-X hipsters therein reminded me an awful lot of me and my own friends in the PC 1990s, at least until the Russian mob shows up and starts breaking their kneecaps. That didn't happen to me and my friends as far as I can recall. (See how my uneventful Canadian adolescence has prevented me from being a literary prodigy? Oh the pain.)

I posted another rambling essay today about Ben Franklin and the Turk and 18th-century robotica over at my big boy website. Halfway through that post I mention that I have "another cool anecdote about the Imperial Academy of Science in St. Petersburg in the 1700s that I want to tell you." I know, I know, most people would be content with just one such anecdote in their life, but you are blessed with me as a friend, so you might as well enjoy it. Check this shit out: Peter the Great, Tsar from 1682 to 1725, was a passionate collector of monsters. In the 1690s, he began assembling a collection of anatomical and zoological monstrosities and abnormalities, living and dead. In 1704, he ordered that midwives throughout Russia were strictly forbidden to kill or hide newborn children with deformations. All "monstrous" births were to be turned over to the clergy, who would deliver them to his Cabinet of Monsters in St. Petersberg. After Peter's death in 1725, the Cabinet came under control of the Imperial Academy of Sciences.

"Cabinet of Monsters." Nice ring to that. Well, I doubt I have to tell you what I'm thinking: If those "monsters" were not giants and hermaphrodites and hydrocephalic kids but actually, you know, monsters... you could have a crazy 1700s Russian League of Extraordinary Gentlemen adventure, or some very cool backstory for the Russian version of the BPRD in a certain long-threatened Soviet Hellboy Delta Green game.

What else? Oh yes. [livejournal.com profile] bryant's Best Movies of 2004 post is up, which is great, and relieves me of having to write one. I spent a lot of 2004 passing off a combination of Bryant and Anthony Lane's opinions about movies as my own, so it seems appropriate to just link to his Best Of list now. My only gripes with his list? I'd drop Sky Captain. I found it dull and disappointing, and I can't help thinking that caffeine and a sense that "I should like this" is deluding Bryant and my other geek chums who still champion the film. And where is the love for Napoleon Dynamite? But other than that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Date: 2005-01-10 02:22 am (UTC)
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I've contemplated this mad fondness of mine for the movie, and come to little conclusive opinion. I've even seen it twice. I will get the DVD and freeze-frame the last second to find out if Joe was lying about the lenscap. Obsession!

In my saner moments, I suspect two things: that I am right in my assertion that it's perfectly crafted pulp, and that the pulp serials sucked rocks. I've been watching Ace Drummond one episode at a time before Huey Long's Men of Action, and while it's great for setting the mood, lemme tell you... it's an awful piece of cinema. I mean, it's just dreadful. The acting is wooden and condescending, the action scenes are ponderous and goofy, and the plot is just an excuse to string together acting and action scenes.

This would imply, if true, that Sky Captain is a perfectly crafted replica of something that sucked in the first place. Which would explain a lot. But that's a hard sell of an argument, since we all think we love pulp to pieces. Nah. We just love Indiana Jones, which deviates from the formula.

Date: 2005-01-10 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robotnik.livejournal.com
We all think we love pulp to pieces. Nah. We just love Indiana Jones, which deviates from the formula.

That same heresy has occurred to me from time to time. What does Indy provide that Sky Captain doesn't? To me: villains, a genuine sense that the heroes are in peril, a sense of humor. Now, do the original pulps have that? My guess is, some do, many don't. I got a DVD of Flash Gordon serials in my stocking; I'll let you know how it goes.

(I love that you show serials before the Huey Long game, btw. I'm definitely stealing that if Red Madness 2 ever happens.)

Date: 2005-01-10 02:35 am (UTC)
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I'm thinking you're right. I have this DVD set containing 12 serials in toto (which is where Ace Drummond comes from); at some point I gotta dig deeper into it. ($25 -- such a deal!) Showing 'em before games is a huge win. I may show the opening sequence of Temple of Doom next week, though; I've been meaning to rev up combats a bit.

The Indiana Jones/love interest banter seems to me to draw upon the screwball comedies of the 30s; same era, different genre.

Date: 2005-01-10 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telepresence.livejournal.com
What do you two think of The Shadow, The Phantom, and The Rocketeer? And perhaps also, Flash Gordon? (The movies, I'm speaking of here)

Frankly, I'd take the last 3, flaws and all, over Temple of Doom any day of the week.

Not so much The Shadow though. There's no getting past the gigantic casting error of Penelope Ann Miller.

Date: 2005-01-10 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] head58.livejournal.com
1) you will provide contact info on where to get this DVD set now.

2) I think the old pulp movies and stuff look terribly wooden and cheesy to our modern eye for the same reasons a lot of other old movies look terribly wooden and cheesy - film was just starting out and everybody was still in radio/stage mode and trying to figure out how the heck to make these talking pictures things work. And there wasn't the need for "realism" that we feel today. I mean, look at the comics from that era too. It looks like they can't draw a "realistic" looking person to save their lives. Where were the Alex Ross's of the 1930s, rendering beautifully photo-like portraits of early pulp superheroes? They were employed in advertising and elsewhere because this new medium didn't demand it. Yet.

So given that, yes the old pulp serials look horrible when you compare them to Indiana Jones but only because we (most of us anyway) saw Raiders first and that's what we thought pulp serials should be like.

Wasn't I having this conversation with someone else recently? Weird.

Date: 2005-01-10 02:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bryant
1. here is good. (That's just the lowest price I've found for 'em; you can get 'em on Amazon too.) Note that the video quality is not so hot; Treeline Films just grabbed public domain footage and didn't worry much about restoring it.

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